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	<title>Comments on: BREAKING NEWS:  DHS to Kill Domestic Spy Satellite Program</title>
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		<title>By: TangoHotel</title>
		<link>http://www.gotgeoint.com/archives/breaking-news-dhs-to-kill-domestic-spy-satellite-program/comment-page-1/#comment-1184</link>
		<dc:creator>TangoHotel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can one individual or for that matter, group of people document how their privacy or individual liberties have been impacted by the domestic satellite program?  Perhaps the word &quot;spy&quot; is causing you a problem, this was added by the liberals and media to instill fear.  The next time a levey breaks in your back yard, a fire engulfs your neighborhood, or an earthquake or hurricane wipes out your local power grid and you&#039;re looking for help from above, think about your privacy.  Too bad the satellites will be turned off and we won&#039;t be able to see you suffer or adequately respond to your needs.  I&#039;m really surprised that geospatially enlightened folks would have such a blind spot to the value of remote sensing resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can one individual or for that matter, group of people document how their privacy or individual liberties have been impacted by the domestic satellite program?  Perhaps the word &#8220;spy&#8221; is causing you a problem, this was added by the liberals and media to instill fear.  The next time a levey breaks in your back yard, a fire engulfs your neighborhood, or an earthquake or hurricane wipes out your local power grid and you&#8217;re looking for help from above, think about your privacy.  Too bad the satellites will be turned off and we won&#8217;t be able to see you suffer or adequately respond to your needs.  I&#8217;m really surprised that geospatially enlightened folks would have such a blind spot to the value of remote sensing resources.</p>
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		<title>By: USGIF</title>
		<link>http://www.gotgeoint.com/archives/breaking-news-dhs-to-kill-domestic-spy-satellite-program/comment-page-1/#comment-1165</link>
		<dc:creator>USGIF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Linked-In:
Just one more step in the Obama administration&#039;s &quot;Five Year Plan.&quot; He&#039;s (hopefully) only temporary, but his destruction is permanent. Or it will take a lot of work to undue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Linked-In:<br />
Just one more step in the Obama administration&#8217;s &#8220;Five Year Plan.&#8221; He&#8217;s (hopefully) only temporary, but his destruction is permanent. Or it will take a lot of work to undue.</p>
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		<title>By: Pennsylvania67</title>
		<link>http://www.gotgeoint.com/archives/breaking-news-dhs-to-kill-domestic-spy-satellite-program/comment-page-1/#comment-1163</link>
		<dc:creator>Pennsylvania67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GSW:

&quot;There would be no need for local law enforcement in South Dakota to use either UAVs or Satellites.&quot;

You might want to read this article
http://www.shephard.co.uk/news/1821/customs-and-border-protection-uavs-begin-operations-in-north-dakota/

Yes you are correct there is a geographics difference between North and South Dakota, but the point I think you were trying to make is that some areas within the US are so remote that the value of imagery for local and state law enforcement would either never be used or only on very limited basis.

If I am correct in understanding your point of view. My point is that the US is a large area and that satellite resource can be retasked to support the region that needs it when they need it. Would the local and State agencies have used satellite imagery when the Red River flooded this past winter. There are many things that can be done and analyzed when you cross correlate data from different sources.

Also, don&#039;tLocal state and Federal all work together when dealing with domestic issues? What about the monitoring of hate groups or domestics terrorist? Some of these groups are located in remote area and UAS or Satellite resources might be the only way to monitor what they are doing in the compound that is on a 100+acres ranch.

Pennsylvania67</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GSW:</p>
<p>&#8220;There would be no need for local law enforcement in South Dakota to use either UAVs or Satellites.&#8221;</p>
<p>You might want to read this article<br />
<a href="http://www.shephard.co.uk/news/1821/customs-and-border-protection-uavs-begin-operations-in-north-dakota/" rel="nofollow">http://www.shephard.co.uk/news/1821/customs-and-border-protection-uavs-begin-operations-in-north-dakota/</a></p>
<p>Yes you are correct there is a geographics difference between North and South Dakota, but the point I think you were trying to make is that some areas within the US are so remote that the value of imagery for local and state law enforcement would either never be used or only on very limited basis.</p>
<p>If I am correct in understanding your point of view. My point is that the US is a large area and that satellite resource can be retasked to support the region that needs it when they need it. Would the local and State agencies have used satellite imagery when the Red River flooded this past winter. There are many things that can be done and analyzed when you cross correlate data from different sources.</p>
<p>Also, don&#8217;tLocal state and Federal all work together when dealing with domestic issues? What about the monitoring of hate groups or domestics terrorist? Some of these groups are located in remote area and UAS or Satellite resources might be the only way to monitor what they are doing in the compound that is on a 100+acres ranch.</p>
<p>Pennsylvania67</p>
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		<title>By: USGIF</title>
		<link>http://www.gotgeoint.com/archives/breaking-news-dhs-to-kill-domestic-spy-satellite-program/comment-page-1/#comment-1160</link>
		<dc:creator>USGIF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Linked-In:

If she consulted the law enforcement officials who were meant to use the satellite program and found that they didn&#039;t need the program, then the cancellation should be accepted. Of course, it won&#039;t. Politicians get their support by fostering hysteria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Linked-In:</p>
<p>If she consulted the law enforcement officials who were meant to use the satellite program and found that they didn&#8217;t need the program, then the cancellation should be accepted. Of course, it won&#8217;t. Politicians get their support by fostering hysteria.</p>
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		<title>By: USGIF</title>
		<link>http://www.gotgeoint.com/archives/breaking-news-dhs-to-kill-domestic-spy-satellite-program/comment-page-1/#comment-1159</link>
		<dc:creator>USGIF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Linked-In:

Sounds like someone is making the right decision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Linked-In:</p>
<p>Sounds like someone is making the right decision.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanessa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit more information available here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124572555214540265.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A bit more information available here: <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124572555214540265.html" rel="nofollow">http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124572555214540265.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: GSW</title>
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		<dc:creator>GSW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Napolitano is right to assume that local law enforcement would not need the use of overhead imagery. In most states, there wouldn&#039;t be a scenario that would fit the costs of the system. In contrary to PA67, the use of UAVs on the borders is the right move by DHS and CBD. It is a localized issue to the borders. There would be no need for local law enforcement in South Dakota to use either UAVs or Satellites. The areas of interest would be focused on a few critical locations, that the US would not get the full use out of the entire system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Napolitano is right to assume that local law enforcement would not need the use of overhead imagery. In most states, there wouldn&#8217;t be a scenario that would fit the costs of the system. In contrary to PA67, the use of UAVs on the borders is the right move by DHS and CBD. It is a localized issue to the borders. There would be no need for local law enforcement in South Dakota to use either UAVs or Satellites. The areas of interest would be focused on a few critical locations, that the US would not get the full use out of the entire system.</p>
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		<title>By: milrep706</title>
		<link>http://www.gotgeoint.com/archives/breaking-news-dhs-to-kill-domestic-spy-satellite-program/comment-page-1/#comment-1155</link>
		<dc:creator>milrep706</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:26:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REF: Tom Geiger. Sounds a lot like Ben Franklin&#039;s, “Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security” ... Perhaps as relevant today as it was when proclaimed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>REF: Tom Geiger. Sounds a lot like Ben Franklin&#8217;s, “Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security” &#8230; Perhaps as relevant today as it was when proclaimed.</p>
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		<title>By: USGIF</title>
		<link>http://www.gotgeoint.com/archives/breaking-news-dhs-to-kill-domestic-spy-satellite-program/comment-page-1/#comment-1154</link>
		<dc:creator>USGIF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Linked-In:

Two words......Liberal politics. Those on the left have ALWAYS been willing to give up safety for personal freedom, often mis-quoting Benjamin Franklin, who said, &quot;Those who would sacrifice essential liberty for a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty or safety.&quot; The problem is, Franklin was referring to trading away freedom for the safety secured through loyalty to King George III of England. Liberals &quot;liberally&quot; apply this statement to ALL manner of personal freedoms, and they will gladly trade away ANYTHING which they feel impinges on those personal freedoms, even if for the sake of the greater good or for their community. They&#039;d rather scream at George W. Bush for &quot;spying on them&quot; rather than have a capability which could provide massive assistance to first-responders during a crisis--with de-classified imagery for use in damage assessment, search &amp; rescue, and which could actually save lives during a catastrophe like hurricane Katrina.
Liberals need to understand that sometimes both freedom AND safety are purchased with the temporary surrender of one&#039;s personal comfort--but it&#039;s a lesson it seems they are never willing to learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Linked-In:</p>
<p>Two words&#8230;&#8230;Liberal politics. Those on the left have ALWAYS been willing to give up safety for personal freedom, often mis-quoting Benjamin Franklin, who said, &#8220;Those who would sacrifice essential liberty for a little temporary<br />
safety deserve neither liberty or safety.&#8221; The problem is, Franklin was referring to trading away freedom for the safety secured through loyalty to King George III of England. Liberals &#8220;liberally&#8221; apply this statement to ALL manner of personal freedoms, and they will gladly trade away ANYTHING which they feel impinges on those personal freedoms, even if for the sake of the greater good or for their community. They&#8217;d rather scream at George W. Bush for &#8220;spying on them&#8221; rather than have a capability which could provide massive assistance to first-responders during a crisis&#8211;with de-classified imagery for use in damage assessment, search &#038; rescue, and which could actually save lives during a catastrophe like hurricane Katrina.<br />
Liberals need to understand that sometimes both freedom AND safety are purchased with the temporary surrender of one&#8217;s personal comfort&#8211;but it&#8217;s a lesson it seems they are never willing to learn.</p>
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		<title>By: Pennsylvania67</title>
		<link>http://www.gotgeoint.com/archives/breaking-news-dhs-to-kill-domestic-spy-satellite-program/comment-page-1/#comment-1153</link>
		<dc:creator>Pennsylvania67</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thought the state and local agencies would turn down resources if they new how to use it or the value I think is rediculous. This is just one more democrate saying a program won&#039;t work or is not of value becuase it was developed under the Bush adminisitration. Should we do away with UAVs on our boarders as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thought the state and local agencies would turn down resources if they new how to use it or the value I think is rediculous. This is just one more democrate saying a program won&#8217;t work or is not of value becuase it was developed under the Bush adminisitration. Should we do away with UAVs on our boarders as well?</p>
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